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Post  minirats on Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:38 pm

hi all i got a new set of both for my 1275 , thay were wrong it turn out it a 1960 to 70 rover 1300engine

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Post  TRR Motorsport on Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:32 pm

The plugs will be fine but your engine will have a Lucas D25 dizzy instead of the later D45, hence you need different points. plugs and points Icon_biggrin
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Post  Martin & Nettie on Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:40 pm

Convert it to electronic and then you can forget about points plugs and points Icon_bounce
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Post  wezgit daan saaf on Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:22 pm

You won't be able to fix it by the roadside if it goes wrong though!!
mmmmmmmmm Lucas electronic ignition........Nice!
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Post  Martin & Nettie on Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:42 pm

Therer's always the AA/RAC plugs and points 341549
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Post  minirats on Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:43 pm

was going to get electronic igntion some say good wat do you all think,

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Post  wezgit daan saaf on Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:58 pm

Electonic ignition gives you a more powerful spark,you also need the right coil with it,but,if it goes wrong there is very little you can do apart from replacing the whole unit,whereas if you have points and a condensor you can just whack another condensor in or another set of points in if it goes wrong.Also if it does go wrong you need a dedicated module tester,whereas with the trusty points you can just flick the points open to see if you have a spark.But,as Martin says,there is always the AA.
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Post  minirats on Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:15 pm

thanks for that i stick the new set in,and maybe it start better pickup new coil-plugs-leads-conds-will see if that dos the job

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Post  OSR on Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:22 am

The electronic ignition will wear out coils quicker as the current is more of a on/off spike then you get with points. I've just bought a new coil for my Scamp and it cost £8 from M&M in Warrington. I had a very informative chat with one of the guys there as I'd gone in to get a replacement ignition module as I thought that was causing the lack of spark. Turns out that the module was a newish refurb one and probably ok. Apparently he rarely has problems with them, usually it turns out the coil has gone. Now the Scamp has a lovely spark but still doesn't start but that's another story Very Happy


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Post  wezgit daan saaf on Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:50 pm

We used to look after a fleet of metro vans and cars a few moons ago,we had the normal point type of problems like condensor failure etc.,but the ones with electronic ignition we had to buy an ignition module tester,it saved alot of guess work and you could test the coil along side the module.The coils gave very little problems(providing the correct one was fitted, i.e. there are ones for standard ignition,ones for balasted ignition and ones for electronic ignition) it was normally the good old Lucas module that we ended up replacing a few of,a simple job providing you can test it first.
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Post  minirats on Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:43 pm

put all new parts on .and she turn over about 5 turns then starts dont know wot to try next ?

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Post  Mk3rob on Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:20 pm

Did you say "5 turns and it starts"..............wots your problem

How old is your petrol, as it does go off.
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Post  minirats on Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:25 am

it started on buton till last year. maybe it just old like it driver ,petrol is new

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Post  Rum Tum Tugger on Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:59 am

Is your ignition system ballasted (identifiable by a white/pink lead instead of plain white at the + end of the coil)? If so, possibly the ballast bypass isn't working. Measure the voltage between the + end and the chassis before, during and after starting - it should go up while starting.

For the uninitiated: in a ballasted ignition system you have something like a 6v coil instead of a 12v one, supplied via a resistor so it only gets 6v anyway. On starting, when the battery voltage drops under the load, an extra contact in the starter motor relay bypasses the resistor so the coil still gets enough volts to give a fat spark.
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Post  Martin & Nettie on Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:39 pm

Its not PC to say "fat" you have to say "big boned" or "obese" plugs and points Icon_razz
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Post  Mk3rob on Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:59 pm

.........and Martin should know, he's been assesed by a professional plugs and points Icon_lol
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Post  Martin & Nettie on Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:57 pm

I am the right weight for someone who is 6 foot 2 - so its my height thats the problem plugs and points Lol

PS for those of you don't know me I am only 5 foot 6 plugs and points Icon_rolleyes


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Post  minirats on Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:15 pm

that wot i like about the scamp club you can find a joke about plugs and points and still give good info , she start she runs and is fun c you all at next show

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Post  wezgit daan saaf on Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:12 pm

So don't forget,thin trim sparks,and connections on the coil that are sexless(not male or female).Oh and they are not sp--e connectors as this is not allowed either!!
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Post  Rum Tum Tugger on Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:54 am

Its not PC to say "fat" you have to say "big boned" or "obese"
Corpulent chance!
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Post  Mk3rob on Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:36 pm

So what was the problem in the end and how did you fix it, plugs and points Icon_question

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was it the usual theory of if you strip it down enough times that it will fix itself when you put it back together again. plugs and points Icon_lol
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Post  minirats on Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:33 pm

i change plugs + points+coil+leads+condeser+rota and to day i find choke not working right . i push it up a bit pushed button and she started . never mind all good for mot at end of march

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Post  Mk3rob on Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:14 pm

Got there in the end thats the main thing plugs and points Icon_biggrin
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