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rear coil-overs?

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Post  johnonthetyne Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:37 am

am thinking over cutting the bracket that holds the dougnut ect from the chasis (as one of the is rotton anyway).and replacing it with coil-overs.apart from the price can anyone see any problems with this?it will save a lot of work.
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Post  Jono Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:39 am


My take on "coil-overs" ? I’m not terribly convinced about the mounting solution for the rears. At least with the fronts you can fabricate a decent bracket for the outboard end of the upper arm that will transmit the loads in a "good way"… well you can if you’re not Blitz Rolling Eyes .. then you cobble together some old tat .. but it can be done nicely.. Now at the rear I believe the bottom mount is off the shock absorber pin at the back of the radius arm and I’m not sure that’s an ideal place to mount it… I could be wrong… hard to believe but it does happen…. Very Happy The top mount you can get to reinforce on the frame, so that’s not too bad… anyway, over to you James/Reg… Question
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Post  Regsmonster Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:47 am

Jono wrote:
anyway, over to you James/Reg… Question
Mini stuff, pah I wouldn't touch it.

Althought I seem to remember the bottom pin breaking when people used coil overs..... Neutral
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Post  Jono Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:16 am

Regsmonster wrote: ...Mini stuff, pah I wouldn't touch it.....


Philistine... Very Happy ...just had a quick look at some of the KAD stuff … Mmmmm… and I notice that they offer a special large pin on their alloy radius arms..for use with coil-overs which kind of confirms that as a weak point.
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Post  johnonthetyne Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:54 pm

ive had 4 minis in past years and hever had said pin break.
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Post  Jono Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:58 pm

johnonthetyne wrote:ive had 4 minis in past years and hever had said pin break.




....... so why ask the question? Feel free to go right ahead.
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Post  Regsmonster Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:27 pm

johnonthetyne wrote:ive had 4 minis in past years and hever had said pin break.
Yes, but have you had coil overs on them?
As I see it the weight of the car is all on that pin when using coil overs, where as the standard mini set up all the weight is transmitted through them rubber things......... Neutral
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Post  Jono Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:11 pm

Regsmonster wrote:
johnonthetyne wrote:ive had 4 minis in past years and hever had said pin break.
Yes, but have you had coil overs on them?
As I see it the weight of the car is all on that pin when using coil overs, where as the standard mini set up all the weight is transmitted through them rubber things......... Neutral


Them rubber things?..Them rubber things ?? Dr Moulton's finest hour...I'll have you know.Idea
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Post  TRR Motorsport Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:37 pm

Firstly I'm not from Philastine!

You will need stronger pins if you intend to run coil overs on a Scamp that has either stiff suspersion or carries loads.

the steelwork around the top damper/coilover mount on a MK1 or MK2 is woefully inadequte. you'll need to weld some support into the chassis. Think triangles! Wink

Finally KAD stuff! Umm, tasty!
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Post  Regsmonster Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:12 pm

TRR Motorsport wrote:Firstly I'm not from Philastine!
No, Coalville's no where near Israel! getmecoat
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Post  wezgit daan saaf Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:42 pm

I remember a trip over the Peak district and a certain Steve Taylor's Mk3 having to limp home with 3 x 13" wheels and one vey floppy 10" wheel and a willing Scamper glued to the bonnet on the other corner to the 10" wheel ! If you are doing serious off roading it is a good idea to get a larger pin on the radius arm made, afterall it is only 3/8" diameter.
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Post  Martin & Nettie Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:47 am

I have had the pin snap on the front shock mount - I am sure that I have seen on many mini specials the shock mounted directly thus doing away with pin - there must be something similar for the rear arms Question
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Post  Martin & Nettie Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:43 am

rear seats - rear coil-overs? Ck19

Found this on the web - I wonder if there is anything similar for coilovers for the rear Question
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Post  Rum Tum Tugger Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:41 am

Aren't coilovers normally fitted as part of a weight saving exercise? In which case the load on the back end would be quite a bit less than normal. Maybe you need to rebuild the chassis in ally or titanium...
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Post  wezgit daan saaf Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:04 pm

Yea,and chuck away the passenger seat and any other superfluous bits of trim!!! Nice one Bob. Actually I think the Mk3 has just got the cones straight into the chassis like the Mk.2 so all you are getting rid of is the cones, as the chassis on my Mk2 2 rotted away where the cones fitted it's a good idea to fit coil overs. And going back to the bigger pins, I don't know if Andrew McLean made some larger pins and do away with the metal bush in the lower shock mount? I remember seeing some somewhere.
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