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Post  Ferretboy221 on Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:19 pm

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Post  Regsmonster on Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:39 pm

I assume it's going to be purely off-road?
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Post  NG Guy on Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:01 pm

There are lots of re-shelled MGB's and Midgets running around, that due to "heritage parts" have managed to retain their original identity; so as frame supplied by Andy Mac maybe not just for off-road?

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Post  Ferretboy221 on Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:31 am

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Post  NG Guy on Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:21 am

I really hope this is the case, and it is a way forward for the more rusty (i.e. MK1's with MOT failures due to terminal rust) older Scamp's.

I wish "Ferretboy" all the very best with his Mk1 project and hope that the new frame meets all his expectations.

Good Luck RG.


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Post  OSR on Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:19 pm

There is no problem with replacing the chassis with a new one on an existing already registered vehicle provided it is built to original spec. Defining the original spec of a Scamp could be an interesting argument but Ferretboy's on pretty solid ground sourcing it direct from SMC.

The relevant DVLA guidance is:
Keeping a vehicle’s original registration number

You can apply to keep a rebuilt vehicle’s original registration number if you can prove you’ve used:

   - the original unmodified chassis or bodyshell (car or light van)
   - a new chassis or monocoque bodyshell of the same specification as the original (car or light van)
    -an unmodified frame, either original or new (motorbike)

You must have a registration document or other written evidence linking the registration number to the vehicle.

You also have to have 2 other major components from the original vehicle from the following lists.

For cars or light vans this includes:
   - suspension (front and back)
   - steering assembly
   - axles (both)
   - transmission
   - engine

Full chapter and verse is here https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/kit-cars-and-rebuilds

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Post  Regsmonster on Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:33 pm

Just made me wonder, because a Scamp chassis would have to be pretty ropey to consider having to use a complete new chassis. Where in my experience cutting the effected area out and welding a new section in would normally suffice.  :)
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Post  Ferretboy221 on Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:49 pm

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Post  SUMB on Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:28 pm

If memory serves me correctly the only original parts of a MK1 I rebuilt years ago were the upper perimeter rails - absolutely everything else was rotten as a pear.

I see nothing at all wrong in replacing a Scamp chassis with a Scamp chassis - even less so when said replacement is a genuine Scamp Motor Co item. You are doing nothing wrong.

But I'll be honest - this is not the sort of conversation that I would have put in the public domain.

The Dutton owners club went on a purge a few years ago and happily informed DVLA of incorrectly registered Duttons still on the road.
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Post  SUMB on Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:31 pm

NG Guy wrote:I really hope this is the case, and it is a way forward for the more rusty (i.e. MK1's with MOT failures due to terminal rust) older Scamp's.
I do however realize that the Mk1's and most of the Mk2's were made by Robert Mandry, I believe Andy took over Scamp production circa 1987 at East Grinstead, before moving to the current production area at Rowfant.

I wish "Ferretboy" all the very best with his Mk1 project and hope that the new frame meets all his expectations.

Good Luck RG.

You worry unduly about the finer points. This is not some cut 'n' shut Sierra Cosworth
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Post  wezgit daan saaf on Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:14 pm

I hold my hands up, I have a version of Trigger's broom,I think the front subframe is original! If you can fit a heritage bodyshell to a Mini then what is the difference?
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Post  Regsmonster on Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:59 pm

[quote="Ferretboy221"]Its been sat out side in long grass for 25 years with no covers and a wooden plywood floor in it. I did start cutting away the worst sections but when the rear subframe fell out taking the rear lower uprights with it i began to lose faith a little in the rest of it. And sure enough wherever i cut to remove sections a nosy along that piece revealed all the main rails were paper thin having rotted from the inside in most cases. It just got to the point where there was so little frame left that i had any confidence in that i started looking for another frame, and on the off chance rang andrew to see if he would build a fresh frame. which he is.... :D [/quote]

Excellent! Sounds like it was very ropey!  I look forward to your rebuild thread! :)
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Post  NG Guy on Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:46 pm

Hopefully to clarify things; IMHO Ferretboy221 has done the right thing (considering the extent of the rust on his original frame), replacing it with a complete new frame/chassis from the current Scamp manufacturer.

To quote SUMB "I see nothing at all wrong in replacing a Scamp chassis with a Scamp chassis - even less so when said replacement is a genuine Scamp Motor Co item."

Not sure why this shouldn't be mentioned in open forum/public domain if nothing is wrong with it.

Again best of luck with the project - I would love to see the finished Scamp at a Show in the future - regards RG.


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