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winch one?
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Martin & Nettie
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Mutstar
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winch one?
Hi guys, I know nothing about off roading but I am under the impression that a winch is handy!
I already intended to fit one to stumpy just because of the nature of the beast but now that I'm seriously considering green laning in my little monster I would appreciate any thougts
I've been looking at 2000lb winchs but after some quick maths have worked out that with me and the car together we weigh in at about 2100lbs.
What sort of rated winches are you guys using?
Thanks
Mutterz
I already intended to fit one to stumpy just because of the nature of the beast but now that I'm seriously considering green laning in my little monster I would appreciate any thougts
I've been looking at 2000lb winchs but after some quick maths have worked out that with me and the car together we weigh in at about 2100lbs.
What sort of rated winches are you guys using?
Thanks
Mutterz
Mutstar- Number of posts : 172
Age : 43
Location : Aldershot
Job/hobbies : minis minis and more minis
Registration date : 2010-09-28
Re: winch one?
Don't forget to add the frictional resistance of the muddy clagg your stuck in into equation. I'm no mathmatitian but i bet you can double your original guestimate.
Re: winch one?
Oh blast and damn! Rassa-fassa-fassa claggy mud!
Mutstar- Number of posts : 172
Age : 43
Location : Aldershot
Job/hobbies : minis minis and more minis
Registration date : 2010-09-28
Re: winch one?
If you recce the area first and know your limitations (you and the vehicle) a winch is not usually needed, you should not go offroading on your own anyway, a must is a high lift jack and a long tow strap with D shackles (suitably rated) these are useless unless you have suitable strong points on your vehicle to attach them to - good luck an happy Scamping
Martin & Nettie- Number of posts : 1216
Location : Runcorn
Job/hobbies : Former SOC President and Secretary - its up to Mr Wezgit & Nettie now
Registration date : 2008-06-25
Re: winch one?
Thank you Martin and/or Nettie! I will still be getting a winch for my little scamp recovery vehicle but its nice to know its not a necessity! I think me and Mk1 Dave are going when his is up and running I wouldnt dream if going solo
Will be interesting to see how well two small engined scamps do and what difference the wheelbases make as his is SWB and mine is LWB
Will be interesting to see how well two small engined scamps do and what difference the wheelbases make as his is SWB and mine is LWB
Mutstar- Number of posts : 172
Age : 43
Location : Aldershot
Job/hobbies : minis minis and more minis
Registration date : 2010-09-28
Re: winch one?
We certainly will be. I never had a winch on my land rover just a good tow strap and a high lift jack
Last edited by mk1dave on Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:27 pm; edited 1 time in total
mk1dave- Number of posts : 122
Age : 43
Location : Aldershot, Hants
Job/hobbies : Mechanic
Registration date : 2010-07-17
Re: winch one?
Thats fair enough! The winch just looks so good on Taz and as Stumpy looksca lot like taz I thought would look great and maybe come in useful
Mutstar- Number of posts : 172
Age : 43
Location : Aldershot
Job/hobbies : minis minis and more minis
Registration date : 2010-09-28
Re: winch one?
Mutstar. You have got me confused now. You are using the same avitar as Admin and to compound the issue his other log in is Muttley
Re: winch one?
Ive taken it off now as Dav just told me he uses it for admin. I am also a Muttley, have been for thirteen years but as Dave was here first (and authorises the accounts I settled for Mutstar
Mutstar- Number of posts : 172
Age : 43
Location : Aldershot
Job/hobbies : minis minis and more minis
Registration date : 2010-09-28
Re: winch one?
Taz's winch is a.... haven't a clue!!!! We just bought it off fleebay! We have actually only used it once when green laning - but it did work!!!! As everyone says, TBH the highlift jack is probably THE best help
lin and tony- Number of posts : 594
Location : Cookley near Kidderminster
Job/hobbies : mending our Scamp - again and again!
Registration date : 2008-08-26
Re: winch one?
Still not swayed as Taz is Stumpys short twin Im feeling the need for a winch!
Mutstar- Number of posts : 172
Age : 43
Location : Aldershot
Job/hobbies : minis minis and more minis
Registration date : 2010-09-28
Re: winch one?
Mutstar wrote:Still not swayed as Taz is Stumpys short twin Im feeling the need for a winch!
SHORT! Now Taz is feeling inferior!
We do like the winch and it did work well to get us out of a ditch so not really trying to put you off!
lin and tony- Number of posts : 594
Location : Cookley near Kidderminster
Job/hobbies : mending our Scamp - again and again!
Registration date : 2008-08-26
Re: winch one?
He shouldnt feel inferior he's quite obviously a very worthy offroader judging by the pics!
Mutstar- Number of posts : 172
Age : 43
Location : Aldershot
Job/hobbies : minis minis and more minis
Registration date : 2010-09-28
Re: winch one?
The problem with a winch is 1. new they are expensive 2. you need a good battery to power it. 3. you need something to tie the other end to. I think think Black & Decker used to do one that hooked over your tow ball, so you could use it at both ends (if you had a tow ball at the front) and it had a remote too - Steve Taylor (an ex pres) had one which worked a treat. If you do get the offroading bug then winches won't like to go swimming, a hi-lift (around £40 quid new) a bit of shuttering ply about a foot square (to put under your hi-lift to stop it dissapearing under the mud) and some reinforced points on the chassis front and back to jack and tow, and of course a few tinnies to give to your fellow Scampers for helping you get out of the clagg that no one else would go through. I have been there done that again and again, got the t-shirt etc have now hung up my D shackles and sold my off-road toy to fellow member Mr. Bingham who still has the mud bug.
Martin & Nettie- Number of posts : 1216
Location : Runcorn
Job/hobbies : Former SOC President and Secretary - its up to Mr Wezgit & Nettie now
Registration date : 2008-06-25
Re: winch one?
Taz's winch has a remote so can be used from the drivers seat with the car in gear.
Water hasn't caused a problem with it yet - and Taz does not duck out of water (See the pictures!!!!)
As Tony says, the winch is really there for if he goes out on his own and gets stuck and there are no fellow scampers to help.
Water hasn't caused a problem with it yet - and Taz does not duck out of water (See the pictures!!!!)
As Tony says, the winch is really there for if he goes out on his own and gets stuck and there are no fellow scampers to help.
lin and tony- Number of posts : 594
Location : Cookley near Kidderminster
Job/hobbies : mending our Scamp - again and again!
Registration date : 2008-08-26
Re: winch one?
Yes theres plenty of proof of Tazs water based lunacy! I just hope Stumpy is of the same breeding!
Mutstar- Number of posts : 172
Age : 43
Location : Aldershot
Job/hobbies : minis minis and more minis
Registration date : 2010-09-28
Re: winch one?
Thank you all for responses! I think I will be purchasing a winch and a high lift jack
Even if the winch is just to fit with the "recovery vehicle" theme
Even if the winch is just to fit with the "recovery vehicle" theme
Mutstar- Number of posts : 172
Age : 43
Location : Aldershot
Job/hobbies : minis minis and more minis
Registration date : 2010-09-28
Re: winch one?
Harvey-Frost was always the one to have on recovery vehicles,spotted one on Ebay;
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WWII-Harvey-Frost-Crane-mann-egerton-recovery-winch-/280577247746?pt=UK_Recovery_Tools&hash=item4153b50a02
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WWII-Harvey-Frost-Crane-mann-egerton-recovery-winch-/280577247746?pt=UK_Recovery_Tools&hash=item4153b50a02
wezgit daan saaf- Number of posts : 1057
Location : HASTINGS
Job/hobbies : Mechanic/Scamps & family
Registration date : 2008-08-16
Re: winch one?
Haha nice one Wezgit think it might be a shade to big though!
Mutstar- Number of posts : 172
Age : 43
Location : Aldershot
Job/hobbies : minis minis and more minis
Registration date : 2010-09-28
Re: winch one?
Yes,I think it might make the steering a tad light.
wezgit daan saaf- Number of posts : 1057
Location : HASTINGS
Job/hobbies : Mechanic/Scamps & family
Registration date : 2008-08-16
Re: winch one?
Nothing i cant handle Wezgit
Mutstar- Number of posts : 172
Age : 43
Location : Aldershot
Job/hobbies : minis minis and more minis
Registration date : 2010-09-28
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