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Post  Martin & Nettie on Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:09 pm

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Nettie said after the Picnic she can't be secretary without her Scamp Florence, so two trips to the tip to get rid of accumulated this and that to get at Florence and gave her chassis a nice coat of dark blue this afternoon (thats the easy bit).
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Post  Steve G on Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:04 pm

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Post  TRR Motorsport on Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:23 pm

Nice one Martin. I can't wait to see Florence back on the road
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Post  Regsmonster on Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:39 pm

Blue? Blue? Everyone knows that Florence is Yellow!
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Post  NG Guy on Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:20 pm

I am sure that Florence was Blue the last time I saw her, many years ago LOL!!

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Post  Regsmonster on Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:49 pm

Yellow Wink http://www.scampownersclub.org.uk/previous/1993_wales_holiday/1b.jpg

(yes, I know she was blue last, but to me Florence will always be yellow! Laughing )
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Post  Martin & Nettie on Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:25 pm

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We brought Florence home in July 2005 and I dismantled her over the next couple of months and replaced a lot of the chassis due to rot, painted it red oxide and left her for the last nine years, can't beleive its been that long !


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Post  Martin & Nettie on Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:35 pm

Reg - Florence wasn't Florence when she was yellow, she had a makeover and became Florence (hope that make sense) Laughing
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Post  Martin & Nettie on Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:54 pm

Those that know the bulkhead on a Mk1 is made of steel not aluminium. Before Florence became Florence she had at some stage had a magic wand gear change which someone had cut the hole with a drill and left loads of jagged edges then later someone had riveted a piece of ali over the hole and fitted a remote gear change, it looked a mess. So drilled out the rivets, cut as neat as possible a squarish hole, cut a piece of steel to fit hole and weld it in. I have not used my mig welder for several years, bought a new bottle of CO2 thought the one on welder would be empty but it still has gas. My first attempt was to say rubbish (pidgeon poo is good in comparison) tip don't let your wire get rusty. So tacked the new plate in last night, attacked it tonight with my trusty grinder, welds not quite perfect but the bulkhead looks a lot neater.

Question: The steering rack I removed is an old oil filled type not sure if I should re-use it as the oil has leaked out (can you top it up), should I buy a new rack or re-conditioned one and can I trade the old one in ?

PS: Time to revisit my Haynes manual to refresh my memory me thinks.
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Post  Steve G on Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:54 pm

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Post  Mr Bridger on Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:51 am

Click.
The difference between steering racks is that the mark one Mini had a greater tuning circle than mark 2 onwards.
Both the rack and steering arms are different.
A mark one rack has no centering pin location. ( found where the left hand drive pinion would fit, if that makes sense)?
Mark 2 racks and onwards have a plastic screw-in device on the left hand side (where the left hand pinion would fit )that you remove and stick in a 5 mm drill to centerlize the rack.
Mark one steering arms have a different ackerman angle, these can be indenified by the fact that they are round where the track rod end fits.
Mark 2 and onwards steering arms have two small nipples either side to distinguish them from the earlier version.
Its all to do with the mark one having a 32 feet turning circle and mark 2 onwards have a 28 feet turning circle.
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Post  Steve G on Sat Sep 13, 2014 11:14 am

Glad you added that info. Sounds like I have a mk2 rack at least. I hope I haven't confused things. I thought the difference was wether they had discs or drums but that isn't the case.

Am I right in thinking very late Minis with 13" wheels had some sort of steering lock stops on the rack to stop the wheels rubbing ?

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Post  Mk3rob on Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:12 pm

No, that's the wheel arch. Twisted Evil
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Post  Steve G on Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:38 pm

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Post  Martin & Nettie on Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:17 pm

What can happen if your tracking goes out of wack (hit a pothole or offroading) is the garage only adjust one track rod end instead of centralising the rack and adjusting the track rod ends equally, if one is a couple more turns that the other on full lock one wheel turns further (cos there are no stops only the end of the rack) and the tyre will rub on the wheel arch Laughing
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Post  Steve G on Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:44 pm

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Post  Rum Tum Tugger on Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:50 am

That's a question to ask John Medhurst.  I had rust problems on my own Mk1's toeboard, unsuspected until a tree root came through it at the '85 (or thereabouts) Picnic.  The affected area was duly replaced with 10g steel, an effective if somewhat agricultural solution.

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Post  Martin & Nettie on Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:40 pm

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Florence now the right way up with steel bulkhead in place with floor panels laid in place to check they fit before re-painting Laughing
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Post  Martin & Nettie on Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:01 pm

Wrestling with rear subframe last night, it came out why don't it go back in ? The rear end of a mk1 is very springy so you have to get the subframe complete with trunnions at just at right angle and it sort of forces its way into position, drilled new holes in chassis for front trunnions and bolted in using stainless steel bolts. Only about a thousand man hours to go Shocked
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Post  Martin & Nettie on Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:21 pm

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A bit more done - rear subframe all in and 1st panel riveted in (rivets all 1/8" or 3mm to you metricated lot) not sure Hammerite fumes doing me any good but hey ho, using black roof/gutter sealent on panels £1 a tube in Poundland (£1.49 in B&Q) oh B&Q have christmas trees and illuminated knodding reindeer on sale already!
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Post  Steve G on Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:06 pm

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Post  Rum Tum Tugger on Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:20 am

Steve, that's the usual place for the fuel tank & battery on a Mk1. And the spare wheel. And the toolbox. And anything else you can squeeze in.
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Post  nhazelwood on Mon Oct 06, 2014 6:18 pm

So is the Christmas tree going in the back & the nodding reindeer going on the roof?

Don't forget to get 12v tree lights, else they won't be very bright on the Scamp.

Nice to see your getting into the festive spirit so early Martin.......

Baaahumbug.  ;-)
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Post  Martin & Nettie on Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:50 pm

Rear seat panel now installed thought I'd better make sure I can get the petrol tank in with the rear sub frame installed, luckily after three attempts it slid in a treat.

The tank filler pipe has been modified (by someone in the past) i.e. cut off and an angle pipe with locking cap now connects via a short length of rubber hose, this has perished over the years where do you buy large bore petrol resistant hose any ideas ?
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Post  SUMB on Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:12 pm

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