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Mini Trailing arms.

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Post  Steve G Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:20 am

Does anyone know if mini trailing arms have built in camber and toe ?
Another way to put it would be to ask if the pivot pin was parallel to the stub axle.

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Post  TRR Motorsport Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:53 pm

As far as I know they are parallel to each other.
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Post  Steve G Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:16 am

I sort of assumed they were parallel but haven't ever seen it mentioned. I was interested to know as I don't know if the original trailing arm brackets can be re-used. It might be easier to drill some new ones parallel and then adjust it afterwards.
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Post  TRR Motorsport Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:23 am

Ah yes, the brackets are parallel. We replaced the rear crossmember on Mike and Keiran's MK2 some years ago so I can answer that one ;-)
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Post  wezgit daan saaf Sat Jun 28, 2014 1:19 pm

There are adjustabe trailing arm brackets available,Ben had them on the back of his Mini then got it 4 wheel aligned with a slightly negative camber.
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Post  Steve G Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:24 pm

I guess there is a chance the arms could be a bit bent as well Just to make things more tricky.
When I get that far I will make the brackets parallel and see how things look, thanks for the replies though.

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Post  Mk3rob Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:38 pm

I have now been told that my Scamp has the Andrew Maclean extensions on my swinging arms.

So what I have been saying for years about having Moke ones is a load of B******ks. Embarassed 

No change there, half of the Scamp club are saying Rolling Eyes 

That could be the reason for the uneven tyre wear I have on the offside rear.
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Post  NG Guy Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:27 pm

Maybe the Cub ones could be used, have a look at the "Biggles" rebuild of a cub on the amc cub (club) website.

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Post  NG Guy Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:45 pm

The Rear Suspension thread in the "Technical Section" is even better/more relevant by the same guy Biggles/Wayne.

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Post  TRR Motorsport Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:54 pm

The radius arm extensions alter the fulcrum point and soften the rear suspension on standard cones. Red dot cones bring the spring rate back to normal.  

The loading points on the radius arms cause the box section the arms are bolted to to deflect and fail over time. Early indications are toe out of the rear wheels and uneven tyre wear. Scampers have
Used several methods to eliminate the deflection in the beam; triangulation, doubling up of the cross member etc...

It's just another one of those Scamp faults we all know and love :-)
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Post  red_leader Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:06 pm

Plus :-
Remember trailing arm extensions make the loads higher.


TRR Motorsport wrote:The radius arm extensions alter the fulcrum point and soften the rear suspension on standard cones. Red dot cones bring the spring rate back to normal.  

The loading points on the radius arms cause the box section the arms are bolted to to deflect and fail over time. Early indications are toe out of the rear wheels and uneven tyre wear. Scampers have
Used several methods to eliminate the deflection in the beam; triangulation, doubling up of the cross member etc...

It's just another one of those Scamp faults we all know and love :-)
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Post  Minivanman Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:53 pm

Mini Trailing arms. 647_zps5d171f62Mines is fitted with the extended swinging arms, with standard cones on the back and it's still quite hard:

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